Bruce Hirschfeld's Petitioners: Laws be damned

Bruce Hirschfeld is running against popular liberal Nydia Velasquez for Congress in Brooklyn. Naturally he has people (in nice blue T-shirts) carrying his petitions in Park Slope. Problem is no one seems to have told them how to petition.

It may be a moot point since I doubt Bruce Hirschfeld will get all that many votes, but let me just point out that from what I saw today, at least some of their petitions will be worthless if challenged.

Three people were covering the same playground in Park Slope with Hirschfeld's petitions. They went up to every single person there to ask them to sign. They didn't ask whether people were registered to vote. They didn't ask whether people were registered as Democrats. And they didn't ask whether people were in the 12th Congressional district. They took signatures from anyone they could. I was asked three times and could have signed all three times...even though I am not in the district. His strategy seems similar to what I saw when Michael Tobman was running Roger Adler's judicial campaign: their petitions had so many out of district signatures (some even from Manhattan and out of state) he would never have made the ballot had his petitions been challenged. The Adler/Hirschfeld strategy seems to be to get as many signatures as possible, election laws be damned, then hold your breath and hope no one challenges them.

Now it is possible that these three petitioners were not typical of Hirschfeld's petitioners and it may well be he will have enough legal signatures to qualify. But I somehow doubt it. Though maybe now he will realize he has been spotted and people are aware that his petitions are lousy and he will shape up his crew.

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Re: Bruce Hirschfeld's Petitioners: Laws be damned

Many candidates do this and they successfully get on the ballot. If a campaign needs 1,250 good signatures and they get 1300 good ones and 10,000 bad ones, they are on the ballot. Are you saying that Adler could have been thrown off the ballot ig only if opponent challenged his petitions? I'm not saying Hirschfield will get enough siginatures but your anecdote doeswn't mean he won't.

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Re: Bruce Hirschfeld's Petitioners: Laws be damned

Well, as I believe I specifically said in the post, sure...he may have enough good signatures. But it shows a sloppy attitude that disregards the election laws. All the petitioning I have ever done I do my best to verify that the signature is a valid one according to the election laws. These people are petitioning for a DEMOCRATIC primary and are collecting signatures without regard to whether the people are Democrats or not, or even registered to vote, there is something wrong there.

Sure many people do it, in hopes that they can avoid a challenge. But many politicians are corrupt as well...does that make it okay to be corrupt?

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Re: Bruce Hirschfeld's Petitioners: Laws be damned

They sound like paid petitioners $10.00 an hour and a bonus for every page they get signatures on. Nydia should definitely be challenging every signature.

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