Did you ever think that the reason why Foley got so many signatures is because he has a massive HIRED staff who can do the legwork for him. I am extremely active in the district and have not encountered one person who was approached by Brian Foley. It's also well known that he had his minions setup camp at numerous grocery store parking lots this past Sunday to collect signatures.

Jimmy actually MET and SPOKE with the people of the district. This is what true grassroots campaigning is about.

Interestingly, this puts my friend's efforts into perspective. Without hiring anyone, Devin Cohen collected 5000 signatures for his judicial race, with the help of four local Democratic clubs. He also only needed 1000. A lot of those signatures involved significant face time with voters either by Devin or people who know him personally. So, while Dahroug and Foley debate about whether the small number of face-to-face signatures or the large number of bought signatures is more significant, Devin beats them both put together while spending almost no money.

Does this make Devin the king of the grassroots approach?

I will add that number of signatures gathered in no way means votes in the end. If it indicates the strength of a ground game, then by all means it is significant IF that ground game can be carried through to the election. That is the key for ANY of these candidates. Establish your ground game and keep it well oiled at the lowest cost possible until voting day.

1400 signatures is pitiful. I would not be shocked if he is kicked off the ballot. Most campaigns want to come in 2-3 times over the necessary limit; and that is consider the bare minimum. Chris Owens 06 campaign got 13,000 signatures, without a single payed petitioned. The person who put that together must have been one smart guy. If I were Jimmy I would be real worried, it is easy to invalidate 400 signatures.

I wonder how much petitioning Jimmy was actually doing?! Even if your campaign was doing all door to door signatures(which they weren't), and only two people go out a night(really sad if true), and they each get 30 signatures a night(not very hard to do), and they go out 30 nights of 45 day period(again not very hard to do) that would equal 1800 signatures. Now lets be real of those 1400 I bet at least 1/3 are from some form of street petitioning. And if you can't get at least two people to go out a night for you, your campaign is sunk. C'mon if he can't even get his mom and dad enthused about volunteering what type of shot does he have.

bye bye jimmy

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If you think 1400 signatures is pitiful, The "Recchia-Brook-Krasny-Delia Shack" Team of the Shorefront Democratic Club only got 1500 signatures. How many of those are good or not good, will be challenged. Alec and friends are really vulnerable. It's about time they get knocked out of the box. This group are really a bunch of BUMS.

The committepeople were given the option of carrying for Foley, Dahroug or Montano. Most carried for Foley, a couple for Dahroug, and none for Montano.

In the same area, Dem Waldo Cabrera filed almost 1,000 signatures to challenge the 6th AD incumbent with no help whatsoever from the party. His entirely grassroots operation has the hacks up in arms.

... is that every one of Dahroug's signatures was gathered by a trained petitioner from a registered Democrat in the district, going door-to-door, while many (most? all?) of Foley's signatures were gathered by semi-trained hired help at shopping centers and street corners, often on the outskirts of the district.

That means that Dahroug's petitions are solid, while Foley's are questionable.

At the risk of setting Bouldin off on one of his tirades, he again appears to be right on the money. 1,450 in a race where you need 1,000 (as opposed to 1,500 in a race you need 500) is not an encouraging number. Neither is the number of subscribing witnesses.

I don't know the Harrison/McMahon numbers, but even if they are 2 to 1, or worse, it seems pretty certain that thay are strong enough to show a credible volunteer base (and if there weren't, you know I'd say so). And a credible volunteer base makes a compelling argument that one can win a marginal seat in the fall. By that measure, which was supposed to be Dahroug's ace in the hole, Dahroug dissapoints.

Let's not overstate this--petitions prove some things, but, as Mole has pointed out concerning Chris Owens, they are not necessarily an accurate guage of who will win. And, yes, 100 door to door signatures, properly collected, may be better than a ton of street crap.

But if the other guy has the money, and the party, you better be able to do better than 15 subscribing witness and less than 1.5 times the required # of sigs.

Trunzo and Foely have the same number of signatures. Dahroug has less than half that amount.

Dahroug is an ugly, unlikable little prick with a totally unwarranted superior attitude, a lack of acumen and no work ethic. His petitioners are mostly from the city. Foley is former pretty boy of limited brainpower and zero vision who inherited his political cachet and his first political job from his father. His petitions were carried 50/50 by committeepeople and DSCC/WFP recruits. In September I plan to hold my nose and vote for Dahroug.

In November, I will vote for Trunzo to keep member item money flowing into my district.

What this means is that Brian Foley starts with approx. 1,400 more votes in the bank than Jimmy. If that is you conclude that most people who sign petitions for that candidate actually intend to vote for that candidate. This is an awfully large gap to overcome. Jimmy's a real longshot now.

Ricardo Montano was also supposed to be running in this district; I wonder what happened to him.

Montano couldn't get anyone to sign he petition so he dropped out and endorsed Dahroug. That endorsement cost Dahroug signatures.