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Dahroug out

Breaking via Albany Project: Jimmy Dahroug just filed a stipulation in a courthouse in Suffolk to have his name removed from the September primary ballot in the Third Senatorial District.

I've been quite open about my disenchantment with Jimmy's campaign, but I'd also like to note that he's a smart guy with a compelling story who could very well play a role going forward. It's in everyone's interest to groom young talents, and that's exactly what Jimmy is; so I'm looking forward to seeing what his next steps are.

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Dan Jacoby's picture

Inaccuracies

1. There is a lot more here than meets the eye (I'm referring to Forand's statement). Jimmy Dahroug is holding a press conference on Wednesday; let's wait for the full story before reaching a judgment.

2. Right now, we need to move forward to make sure that there are at least 32 Democrats in the state Senate come January. That means helping defeat both Serph Maltese and Frank Padavan in Queens, and helping Brian Foley knock out Caesar Trunzo in Florida -- excuse me -- on Long Island. And while we're at it, there are several races upstate, one or more of which could produce a new Democrat in the Senate too.

Bouldin's picture

Please point out

any inaccuracies that you see, and I'll make sure to correct them.

Right now, the main inaccuracy I see is the one that posited that Jimmy's signatures were so super-duper-awesome, collected as they were by "highly trained petitioners" going door to door in a celebration of American democracy at its finest, that 1,400 would definitely be enough to stay on the ballot.

Statements to that effect appear to have been quite hopelessly in error.

mole333's picture

Best of luck

Best of luck to Foley and Dahroug. Always was of the position that Dahroug was better, but had nothing against Foley.

Gothanonymous Reader's picture

This is very odd

This is very odd given the pronouncements made repeatedly here that Jimmy's 1,400 signatures were much stronger than Foley's because he had gone door to door the hard way and made sure his petitioners were in the district, as opposed to Foley who probably bought a lot of his signatures. What criminal accusations was Foley going to make against the Dahroug campaign?

Perhaps Jimmy just saw how much money Foley had raised and realized he was not going to win the primary. That would have been a real kick in the head for one who had been the party's nominee for two elections running to not even get nominated the third time.

mole333's picture

Yep

Let me point out that I always said IF Dahroug's people did it the careful, door to door way his sigs would be more reliable. I always admitted I was going on his campaign's statements on the matter. IF his campaign did not do the process properly, then he definitely needed to gather a couple thousand extra sigs.

Let me reiterate that there are two ways to do the petitioning process: go door to door with a walk list making sure each and every sig is the correct one, or gather 5x more sigs you need in a more scattershot manner hoping that at least 1/5 is valid. Here in Brooklyn the people I know tend to combine the two methods: going door to door and being careful to confirm most sigs, but ALSO getting 3-5x what you actually need. Neither candidate in the Dahroug/Foley primary met the standard I am used to candidates reaching. Dahroug's people claimed they did the first strategy, but seems that may not be the case.

Gothanonymous Reader's picture

But wait, wasn't it all over

But wait, wasn't it all over this blog and TAP that Daroug's signatures were taken by super-trained grassroots heros?

Great, DFNYC is now losing races before the vote even happens. Good work!!

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Don't let Jimmy Dahroug off so easy

Don't let Jimmy Dahroug off so easy here guys. A lot of people including a number of DFNYC members went out to Long Island and gave of their time and personal sweat and tears to help Dahroug get those signatures. It is a slap in their faces for him to collect all those signatures, get on the ballot and then decide not to make the race. Maybe Dahroug saw the poll numbers and the signatures Foley had gotten, knew he would lose, and decided to spare himself the pain of a losing primary night? Maybe he is earning a future favor from the local party by not contesting the primary? Maybe Foley and Dahroug cut a deal whereby Foley dropped his petition challenge in exchange for him dropping out? Whatever the case may be, Dahroug owes his supporters the full and true explanation. I would think his political future depends on it. Otherwise why would these people be willing to go out and collect signatures for him next time?

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I think of all the posts above Dan Jacoby makes the most sense

Let us wait and see what Dahroug has to say at his press conference. As for Jimmy's future, there are many of us who supported Foley who would support and hit the streets for Dahroug if he primaried for Ricardo Montano's County Legislative seat next year. He would have Steve Levy and probably ten other Democratic Legislators joining him. That is the level Jimmy should have started at all along. But again, there is the upcoming press conference.

Gatemouth's picture

Stop Picking on Jimmy

He dropped out, there is no primary, and the party can now unite. Like in the presidential race, it's time for both sides to stop the fighting and unite to elect our candidate.

Can't help adding one petition note--if the issue was really fraud, quadrupling the number of signatures might not have helped. Certain types of fraud will take down an entire petition, no matter how many the signatures. Of course, i have no knowledge of this case, and it no longer matters.

So, get off your asses and knock on doors.

SKCogswell's picture

The ends justify

the means. It doesn’t matter anymore how we flip the Senate as long as we flip it. So take Landlord money, take Charter School money, sell your progressive soul and convince yourself it’s all justified and you’re not becoming that which bothered you and got you involved in the first place. We don’t want scrappy rag tag races anymore right Bouldin? We want high tech, well financed winning races so we don’t have to bemoan progressive losses anymore. So dress up status quo candidates as progressive in your mind and see if in the end you like what you get.

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Was Jimmy protecting his petition signers?

The Newsday article is here:

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/politics/ny-podahr105796003aug10,0,563...

Of particular note is this quote from Richard Schaeffer, Suffolk County's party chairman:

"I spoke to Jimmy late last night and this morning," Schaffer said Friday, "and he has dropped out. He believes there is a bigger goal, flipping the Senate to the Democrats. Brian not only has the backing of the Senate Democrats but he also has the Working Families line."

Schaffer added that he was disappointed that some Foley backers in Albany sent private detectives to check on people who signed Dahroug's petitions. "This is Suffolk, not New York City," he added"

Private detectives?! Is it possible therefore that Jimmy fell on his sword to protect the people who signed his petitions from having their privacy invaded? Is this what New York politics is coming to, when you sign a petition for a candidate and get private detectives investigating you to see if you really live there? Jimmy's a good guy and it would not surprise me in the least if he gave up his dream to protect his signers and avoid having the money to fight court challenges and private detective investigations.

Something really smells here. A guy like Jimmy doesn't give up something he's worked so long and hard for unless the snakes were in the grass!

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